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What this is all about...
Childhood, Spiritual Dreams, and Dark Presence
Reasoning my Way to Atheism
Ghost in London
Best to Worst to "Born Again"
UFOs, Demons, Angels, and Padre Pio
The UFO Leads to "Deliverance"
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Supplemental: Notes from Rick about Ghost in London
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Supplemental: Notes from Rick about Ghost in London
July 20th 2020 by Joshua Jung

These are my unedited notes, pulled from Google Docs, with Rick the night I asked him to explain our mutual ghost experience in London.

Explanation

This are the live notes I took while talking with Rick about the Ghost in London. The spelling mistakes and capitalization issues are mostly because I was trying to type them out while on the phone with him, and I decided to leave this as is. Formatting has been edited to highlight parts of the notes, but text has not been edited.

The last edit in the Google Document was on June 8, 2019, roughly two weeks after I first saw the UFO.

Notes

Rick: “You can’t hear anything from inside the shower with water running over your head”

“I was very familiar [note-taking stopped]

“What my experience was in that building relating to you in the building at that particular moment… I could have just been an AirBnB guest and every sound would have been foreign to me…
“I am a film director who lives there… I’m a long term lodger… I live there for months on end, became friends over two years… I know the sounds, the moans, the groans, and its environment… that also means that I would understand that if someone has a key to the door I would hear that… that is a brass victorian key going inside an 1800s door lock… that is just in general terms… I am just relating to you… my general outside the bathroom experience

Inside the bathroom it is irrefutably that you could not have heard any sound outside of the bathroom… if you were standing in the shower

“That’s the inside and outside of what physically oyu might be able to hear inside and outside of the bathroom”

“When I was sitting there… that particular house does have… I am aware that they have had a fair amount of clairvoyant, not dark spirited things.. My point I’m trying to do is give you some background”

“The house, I have met plenty of people, they have, they have a lady who is a clairvoyant… not a giggle give me money and ill get a hold of uncle bob… but she has a very special gift… many people have gone to her… I will never go to her because I dont care”

“She [the clairvoyant] could sense ‘spirits’ in the house and was very uncomfortable being there because there are so many. Not that they are mean, not that they are dark. Apparently people who are involved with such things have a six sense … is another phrase… they can recognize if they are dangerous or well-being”

“Kate has seen a young girl, reanna has seen a young girl… their son tom won’t go into the one bedroom because he got too afraid. A lot of activity is in Kate’s daughters bedroom area. Her daughter’s name is Rhiannon”

“My first person singular experience that the household owners had with me… I had personal experiences I could not explain because they were too unusual… just something is not the same… something is different that would appear and disappear as quickly as you could think”

“But what I wanted to say to you… that’s the background of the house… a professional clairvoyant recognizes there are well-meaning spirits in the house… there are spirits and figures”
“So anyway…. Ummm… I was working on the film about young girls in STEM education… the film I was working on is called [redacted for privacy]… anyway… soo… you were going in to take a shower and I could hear the water and you in the shower… and then I could hear that by the back door by the bathroom door not a descriptive word not a descriptive sound more of an esoteric phwwoooo, like a breath, an utterance if you will and I heard you say ‘Hello’... I think you said it twice while you were in the shower the first was Hello and the second was ‘can I help you’ and then you turned off the water and when you came out you asked me ‘was there calling to me … did someone want in the bathroom or something’ and I absorbed what you said and I already knew there was not but there was no way you could have heard what I heard in the bathroom and I heard it but that it was impossible for you to hear it in the bathroom. It wasn’t gutteral, it wasn’t sharp edges notes, there was no clunk or clang, there was no lights, it was a phwooo,.... It was a breath…. It was a breath… like a whoosh, but like you would visually see if something was ripping past you at speed… the sound a car was make if it was at high speed with no engine… the moving of air… the movement of air. So I told you, when you said, does someone need in the bathroom or something… I said ‘No’... and you were perplexed in your towel and said ‘I heard somebody’ and then I said ‘there was no one there’ and then I said to you ‘did you ever have any history or are you involved with the church’. To me there is an existing acceptance the closer you are involved in the faith the more you will come into attack spiritually. The closer you try to walk in your faith and learn in a Judeo-Christian view the more the contrary spirits will attack you. When I asked you did you have anything to do with the church are you involved with the church, my observation was that you were under attack. So that had a different slant on it.

“ I wouldn’t have been able to hear you either if the shower was running. So in a bigger picture of things, I would say that the sound you heard was not natural, that it wasn’t of this world,... I’m not being an idiot… my faith is as strong as Billy Grahams… my belief is 100% that way, I accept that there are evil spirits just as there are good spirits… you cant have a whole doctrine of Judeo-Christian teachings from the birht of Christ to the modern day wihtout accepting that there is evil and danger on the other side of the railroad tracks… ti wouldn’t make any sense. YOu cant accept that there is only heaven… heaven itself recognizes there is a hell. So, are there spirits that are roaming around that house… that house is clear back to wordsworths time, that was when … has it been around long enough there are things we cannot explain… absolutely

“Absolutely I heard it, and I can confirm that you heard something that there is no way you could have heard as quiet as it was outside… it was not a human voice you were responding to, you must have thought you heard a voice… but from the outside it was a supposition that you heard something tangible but what I heard was an utterance, a breath, you see what I’m saying? It’s really important to be clear that you heard in the shower something that was physical asking you a question… but there was no one on the outside asking you a question buddy… you think you heard a human sound I’m telling you it was a breath. Make sense? What you heard wasn’t what I heard, why do that make a difference? Why does that make a difference? Because what you heard was meant for you to hear, not for me to hear. I was just a witness. Does that make sense?”

[Edit: I cannot help but point out here the resemblance with Rick's statement about the "wind" or utterance sound and the Bible's mentioning of the sound of a rushing wind when the Holy Spirit spoke on Pentacost]

“You responding, can I help you, hello, was answering a human voice. What I heard was not human, was not structured as English language or foreign language, it was a sound, a utterance. And that did happen. But I remmeber distinctly two separate times, one with the shower running and the second when you turned the shower off and were listening. Me standing on the shower I would not have been able to hear that being very familiar with that house, it was physically impossible to even think that could be and partly that is because the walls are so thick and the way the house is built. So, yes you did hear something, no, it wasn’t anybody on the outside of that door.”

“What is important when you find out, there is something called… one of the… one the holy … cant remember this… one of the main… the sentence you need to be aware of is words of knowledge… I looked at you and you looked at me and I would just be a vessel to tell you something and we saw and heard something completely different “

Josh: “You are basically saying you observe this as a direct message to me and you were secondary witness”

“Yes”

“The partner to the crime is confirming that something happened and confirming that what was heard on the outside was not heard on the inside and the house has paranormal, but not meanspirited activity, and has confirmed to you that I am not surprised. We have also confirmed the physicality of the experience and if you did I would have heard it too Josh. The bathroom door is maybe 7 or 8 feet and I am only another 12 feet beyond that I would have at least heard what you heard but I did not hear that. The only one in downstairs was you and me. That makes my opinion much more valid given that physicality of that downstairs experience. Do I feel that was a threat to you? No. No I don’t. Do I feel that it was trying to connect with you for some reason? Yes.”

“There’s a very well-known book, that chronicles, documents, situations that happend throughout italy where they had divine intervention in life-challengin situations and a lot of the stories focused around one particular priest. Gifts of the holy spirit… one of the gifts is the word of knowledge, which I experienced strangely enough, the word gentle you used is really important”

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